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On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Wel, no... Edp doesnt scramble, but audibly, one could say the effect > sounds like a standard quantise subtitute. Of course then you have to > build the chunks yourself, Though the two have that square wave slicing sound, what I like about Scramble is that you can constantly randomize your loops. It suddenly occurred to me that if you just set up these two commands in a row, that you can constantly keep randomizing what your little sub pulse goodies will sound like. First, take a scramble your track: The use simple command: 1 = Fast Scamble (this takes your original scrambled track out of scramble) 2 = Fast Scramble (rescrambles with a new randomization)............ By then using Bounce you can then listen to what is spit out and constrain it to what ever time signature you'd like by truncating the bounce when you achieve the sub pulse you want and the original track turns itself off. If your timing is really accurate (and there is no better way to improve timing than to practice constraining a fast or medium scramble to a new time signature) then by applying the exact Q-quantization for using Q-replace you can then 'customize' your new ostinato rhythm. A cool thing to do it is to cut silence slices into your loop so you can get more of an 'African' paradigm to your ostinato loop. I was over at Bill's last night and he was doing wicked stuff by constantly introducing new material (constrained with digital delays, feedback reduction, Q-replace) It was really beautiful where he's taking this stuff. Also, if you think about it, if you Fast Scramble your track, then you have a whole series of wav forms whose volumes cut abruptly at the boundary of each Scrambled 'slice'. If you are not constraining Scramble to a time signature, then every time you do a Q- replace you are introducing new slices that are NOT the same size.........and Scrambling them. This causes a lot of jittery/glitchy goodness in your loop and yet, if you constrain what you are playing to fairly fundamental harmonic choices, you have a really nice 'bed' that you can play langorously over. This approximates the Indonesian "Kotekan" paradigm of rhythm creation, where every single sub pulse is played in such a way that the soloist just soars over the 'percolating' texture of the manipulated loop. Q-replace some silences and you can come up with some cool "Afro-centric" syncopations ps by the way, we've got some cool new features planned for adding to the LP-1 that should give it some other unique qualities (as Mark Hamburg mentioned that he thought Scramble was a defining technique that separates the LP-1 from other units). rick walker