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I do, however, seem to find it a bit too easy to overload something somewhere in the chain. Mark On Jun 25, 2011, at 4:24 PM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > As in ambience behind the main signal. > > I continue to love my Korg AM8000R, but it's a rack unit and that makes > things less mobile, so today I decided to try to push my Line6 M13 > harder. The verdict is that I miss some things from the Korg -- pitch > shifting delays with feedback especially, stepped phasers to a lesser > extent -- but chain together 3 or 4 careful chosen effects all set to > 100% wet and one can get a fairly nice ambient vibe going. The Obi Wah > is a good substitute for the stepped phasers, for example. > > This is an area where the M13 seems to win over the M9: One more effect > and you can see all of the live effects at once for tweakage. > > The downside, of course, is size. > > And then there's the matter of really needing to run this sort of chain > 100% wet which means that there are routing issues to deal with. > > Still, I am starting to see how it could be very appealing to use the > M13 as an ambient looper either on the floor or raised up onto a stand > for easier tweakage. > > Mark > > P.S. Something I haven't tried yet, but it occurs to me: You can put the > looper anywhere you want in the signal chain if you use the effects > loop. You put your pre-loop effects in the later slots, put your input > into the FX send before these effects, then feed your output to the > input, run the looper pre-FX, and use the effects send as the output. > > Instrument -> FX Return -> Pre-loop FX -> Output -> Input -> Looper -> > Post-loop FX -> FX Send -> Amplifier/Mixer/... > >