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Re: Boomerang with Sidecar





Todd Matthews wrote:
I believe what Andy is saying is the fact that since there is a long press and short press 
function on the same button………. then the software has to execute the 
function when you release the button. If the software executed the short press as you depressed 
the button it would be impossible to ever have a long press.

There is noway, to my knowledge, that you can change that behavior on the rang3 but since we are talking about milliseconds from the click of your foot down to up on the boomerang style buttons it would be easy to learn to time the function yourself with a little practice. Especially if your armed with the knowledge of it's behavior.
All that said, I don't have a rang3 to test on now (but I've used one 
before) so I could be blowing smoke. Just trying to help


hi Todd,
:-) that's much better than my answer which I've just deleted.



andy



On Aug 3, 2011, at 1:33 PM, Brian Carabee wrote:

I'm probably misunderstanding you. You guys are far more advanced than I, and my exposure to 
the various models of loopers is limited. Maybe this is an opportunity for me to learn 
something. Can you tell me exactly how you define "longpress" and 
"shortpress"?

On the Rang, each bonus button can each be assigned both one function with 
an immediate tap, and another function with a 1 second hold. As far as I 
can see, no matter what the function, the tap invokes the function 
instantaneously.

So with the sidecar, you have a total of 4 bonus buttons that can access 
four functions with an quick tap, and four with a 1 second hold.

As an aside, there is now an ability to set "Stack" to "Momentary". 
Instead of tap on, tap off, you can hold it down to stack and let it go to stop stacking.

I realize you might be rolling your eyes, LOL, because I'm 
misunderstanding you, but I'm here to learn, so if you care to enlighten 
me I'd be grateful.

Brian


----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler" <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: Boomerang with Sidecar


hi Brian,

my point is not the timing of the longpress functions,
but that of the shortpress.

The function, in some cases at least, can't be activated
until the switch is released, rather than when it is pressed.
(the EDP gets round that by careful pairing of short and long functions)
That's the cost of having 2 functions on the button.


That means, if you hit half Speed it will be delayed,
even though it's put on a Shortpress button.
..and that's a time sensitive function.

So, is it possible to config the bonus buttons for just
one instantaneous function?


andy


Brian Carabee wrote:
Before my Rang arrived, I thought that would be an issue but it never has been. The 
Loop buttons of course are instantaneous, and it's easy to assign non-timing 
critical functions to "Hold".

So, for example, I will assign things like "Once" and "Fade" to Hold, 
because timing isn't critical on those. In fact, I find in actual practice that Holding has 
never been an issue, to my surprise. I think it's one of those things where in theory, it 
seems like Holding a button for 1 second to invoke a function would have to present timing 
problems, when in actual practice it turns out to be a non-issue.

Hope that helps.

Brian

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Todd Matthews
toddbass.com
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