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just stumbled across this while perusing some clips if, like me, you like to use fx on your loops, especially to create rhythms from ambient drones etc, then here's a fun thing to try... set up an audio track and drop some drum loops into it set up another audio track and drop the vocoder in as an effect. for audio in, select your drum track send the audio from the drum track to the vocoder track (not sure if you have do do this, you may just be able to turn off monitoring) in the vocoder, set the input to external and select the track that's playing your loop audio now the drum track with "rhythmatise" your loop if you can mute the original loop audio, so you can just hear the vocoder audio, all the better very nice sounds available, especially if you play with the formant and the depth controls and make sure you set it to "L/R", not "stereo" for panning fun also good, because you can drop lots of different drum loops in on the same track and have lots of different rhythms available add synced delays,sweeping filters etc after the vocoder for more interest cheers! sim more experienced ableton users probably discovered this years ago, but there you go....