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I sold my EDPs and have now moved to a laptop. This allows me to have scenes set up in ableton. Each scene sends different midi program/cc/pattern changes to the drum machine, bass synth, and pedals. Working this way has changed the way I view live looping and live song creation. At this point, I have stopped caring about only using hardware / being a purist. I absolutely refuse to sell my pedals and tube amp (sound quality), but I'm done with self-imposed limits that get in the way of creating music. Most people don't care what technology is used. It's really about the performance and the quality of the song/arrangement. I can't play drums or bass synth while doing guitar stuff, so I have accepted that I'll have to trigger a bass sequence or drum pattern. This doesn't mean I will only do that, but it's useful if the drums and guitar start together. If the guitar loop is running and I have the time, I'll definitely lay down some bass synth, loop it, then start going crazy on the trigger finger. So...I like having options. I can play it live and loop it if I want to, or I can trigger parts. Which loop is more significant / important to the song? I'll play that one live and trigger the auxiliary stuff. On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote: > On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Michael Carlson Music wrote: >> >> I think some kind of combination of sampling, looping, and voice-to-MIDI >> will allow me to become the whole band and sing whatever song I want in >> my >> own a cappella style. >> >> Does this sound crazy? > > Not at all, I think it's imminently doable. > > You might look into finding a used LP-1 for the creation of your > different > chord schemes..... > It's ability to record loops on the fly that have different lengths (by > changing the master track status) > could let you do this. > That's the best solution > to the changing chord stuctures in hardware although a similar thing can > be > done with a use EDP (which I have a pristine one for sale) with it's use > of > linear single loops (moreLoops) > > This can also be done handily in software, though I'm not the one to > advise > you about it's particular solution. > > The creation of samples on the fly that can immediately be mapped to a > keyboard is something I've wanted to do > as well. > > I know that the MPC paradigm of Akai Sample Work stations allows for the > retriggering of samples but I've never owned > on and don't know if it can be done in real time. > > We have talked about adding a lot more functionality and control to the > 'Q' > concept in the LP-1 but > all the delays on the LP-2 this year have decidedly back burnered any new > work on that. > Once the LP-2 is out, I think we may begin working on this. > > I'd love to be able to have a hardware looper that can manipulate and > slice > of real time loops (in much the same way > that many new software solutions allow for the immediate slicing of loops > using individual transients as a guide > and the immediate mapping of such slices to midi notes for retriggering > and > even rhythmic retriggering ala > the MPC approach. > > I know that Expert Sleepers, "Crossfade Loop Synth" in software allows > for > some powerful real time > manipulation of loops > > http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/xfadelooper.html > > Michael Peters on this loop has a lot of experience using this live and I > though it is on my list of things to do and learn this year, I haven't > learned it yet. You might look into it. > > Also, I'm not sure how powerful the scripting possibilities of Mobius > are > in software but Jeff Larson, Per Boysen or several other people might be > able to advise you about using that solution to accomplish what you want. > > I think definitely, you'll probably need at least a couple of > software/hardware solutions to accomplish everything you envision. > > The only drawback is that it's going to take you time even if you have > software/hardware that will accomplish your task to set up a song in real > time in front of an audience. > > Martin Simpson completely retunes his guitar between every single song in > concert.....something that would be considered to be perilously slow to > accomplish in a live show but he pulls it off by being a good showman and > excellent story teller who can be entertaing as he's actually setting up > his > next song. > > You might be able to do something similar........work out a way of being > entertaining as you set up all your chord > structures and individual 'beatbox' vocal syllables for > retriggering...............or you could do it all > ahead of the game. It will come off less spontaneous, imho, if you > choose the latter. > > Good luck, it's a very creative and ambitious show you are preparing. > I can't wait to see you perform it at next years festival. > > rick walker > >