Re: Mobius in Ableton Live and Offset MIDI Program Change #s

["Kris Hartung" <krispen.hartung@gmail.com>]

Yes, this is quite odd. As I just told Jeff,  I open Mobius while in Live, 
and I use the MIDI Capture function set map my controll buttons to Mobius 
functions.   I click on Record, press my #1 button on my controller, and 
Mobius shows it as 0 (meaning my controller range starts at 0).  But then 
when I go back to re-check Record, for instance, I see that it has change to 
1.   So in the end when I in Live and looping, I have to hit my #2 
controller button for Live to tell Mobius that I really mean 1.


----- Original Message ----- 



I just checked at the Live forum and it seems Live is quite rude with
MIDI Program Change messages. In fact people says Live converts them
to MIDI CC# messages. If that's true it is a true bummer. Nice to hear
you found they actually arrive, although by a different value. Maybe
better use something else than MIDI PCh. Or if you have some plugin
that really needs PC's to work ok you could use CC#s and put some MIDI
converter plugin (Bidule?) right before it to convert incoming CC#s to
PC's. Or use PC's and transform the value a step.

But why can't you MIDI learn whatever your pedal board is sending in
the plugin? That's the usual procedure. Ableton Live also has its own
MIDI Learn system for external parameter control (that is IF the
plugin is properly designed according to the VST/AU protocol - not
every plugin out there is, especially in the VST domain)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.youtube.com/perboysen




On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 12:02 AM, Kris Hartung
<krispen.hartung@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is there a way to offset MIDI program change #s in Live, from an external
> MIDI controller?
> For someone reason, when I send a program change #1 from my MIDI 
> controller,
> Live intepretes it as 0. I am using a MIDI Moose controller to send 
> program
> changes to Mobius in Live. When I use Mobius as a standalone, all is good.
> So I think Live is intervening and interpreting a 1 from my controller as 
> a
> 0, and sending that to Mobius from my MIDI track. Very peculiar problem.