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Set up a "kill switch" on the CTL pedal. Set the XPR pedal to control ping-pong delay feedback. Now stuff odd "kills" into a never-ending delay swarm. Sculpture swarm cluster by "milking" the XPR pedal. This a "pre looper" trick so you may do it over a beat you have assembled in your looper or you may start with a silent loop and build a rhythm by doing "substitute stuff" cutting pieces from the noisy swarm party into the loop. ----------------- I'm doing this now with a cheesy G-300 sound (sorry Kris) that also jumps up in a kind of "one octave hick-up" on the (momentary) CTR hits. Then the CTR also sends a #CC into the lappy where an Amplitube 3 wha-octavia-marshall goes full distortion during the short kills pedal hits. Sounds like big pneumatic construction machines going havoc. If using a quarter note swell pedal too in the Amplitube 3 this weird rough sound suddenly becomes "wanting-to-act-loving-and-tender-but-looking-just-too-damn-ugly-to-be-taken-seriously..." boy what fun! ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen