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On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 12:22 AM, Grant <grantmepeace@mindspring.com> wrote: > Do you usually specify how much to multiply by (vs just letting it > continue to extend until the multiply function is deactivated)? I have discussed this with other looping musicians and there seems to be no approach that is more used than the other. Myself I do both, depending on the musical situation. When I do an Instant Multiply I first decide on how much longer I want to make the loop, and of course no additional layers are created as it is just an instant button press (same when doing an Instant Devide to shorten a loop in a blink). But when doing traditional Multiply I play along and add a new layer in real-time until I have played through what I feel would make a natural length for the new loop/part, then I kick Multiply to set the new loop point at the next upcoming quantization cusp. I remember back when Loop4 was released for the EDP, it added the option to press a number of times on the Multiply switch to decide in advance how long you want the real-time Multiply process to go on. I did not like that function, as I wanted to play along to get a feel of the musically fitting new loop length, and unfortunately I often happened to kick in this new command when I was going to use Multiply to cut down the length a long loop to just one cycle. I found no "undo" for that error and no way to disable this new feature either, you were just stuck there - can't say it was a favorite ;-)) A creative way to use Multiply, on loopers that support it, is to end Multiply with Record to cut down the loop's length to a value between the cycle quantize value. When looping with multi channel loopers I sometimes use this on one of many parallel loops and typically cut down one loop to a length that goes well poly rhythmically with the other loops - like for example if playing in 4/4 you cut down one parallel loop to 3 beats and let it play along with the other loops that spin on 4, 8 or 16 beats. Just a simple example, anything goes. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen