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Nice approach, How do you setup a polyphonic environment? Which processing HW (not counting PC's) that can output a (mono/stereo) input signal on 4 outs? I'm thinking of synth stuf (Nord modular) but are there any reverb or chorus that can do so? That would be wild. Do you need to setup a mixer with 2 aux or a split box? I'm interested ;-) Ben -------------------------------------------------- Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com> wrote: (11/01/2012 12:34) > I'll approach this from a different angle - somewhat inspired by this > mornings FB conversation with Per. Another way to deal with dense > polyphonic texture is to distribute the sound spatially. I notice a > lot of users on here limit themselves to stereo reproduction - > understandably so - it is difficult to access more than a stereo PA! > However, if you have the means to use more than one or two speakers > within a performance environment, I would highly recommend that you > investigate the distribution of your loops spatially. Just another > approach versus space being associated somewhat synonymously with > silence. You can let multiple loops become as polyphonic as you wish, > if they occupy their own physical/acoustic performance space. > > Even two amplifiers on stage makes a difference. As Sjaak may attest > to, one of the most impressive live looping gigs you can experience is > Hellmut Neidhart's, "N" - allowing continuous drones to evolve and > continuously compliment each other. > > http://vimeo.com/10136228 > > > Best, > > R > > On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:45 AM, <mike@michaelplishka.com> wrote: > > Great perspectives, Per! Definitely worth applying and ruminating > > over.. > > > > Funny. I was showering this evening and a song came to mind that I > > wrote some time ago called, "All the things I don't say." > > > > It's a pseudo-looping tune. Some looping but vocals and some solos are > > overdubbed. I blogged about it in conjunction with a provocative > > interview with Andrew Pek of ivibeglobal.com. The blog was about > > innovation but it's apropos for music/looping as well. The song and > > lyrics are included. > > http://www.customerthink.com/blog/being_in_between_mindfully_exploring_the_space_of_interaction_and_innovation > > > > ~peace~ > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > www.michaelplishka.com > > www.scribbledmusings.com > > www.zenstorming.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Per Boysen [mailto:perboysen@gmail.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 1:26 AM > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Re: Creating Space > > > > I would say that the solution to this, as to most other musical > > issues, is to listen more. This may seem obvious for many, but for > > those who typically plays instruments like the guitar and the piano it > > can easily happen that learning to play the instrument, as a > > bi-product, also causes the musically rather destructive habit of > > approaching music-making as "positions on the fretboard where you push > > down strings when plucking them" rather than viewing music as sound > > and expression of emotional content. I've been stuck into that trap > > myself and know that it can be a depressive experience. You need to > > "de-learn" the instrument in order to rediscover music and one way can > > be to try playing for a while in a manner that always avoids the > > typical notes and phrases that "just pours out through the fingers". > > If you don't feel that a certain note will fit in perfectly well to > > play next - shut up and listen for another second until you really get > > the feeling of what note that makes musical sense to continue with. > > > > This teaching may seem counter-productive to a lot that is taught in > > jazz, since jazz to a great deal is about implying phrases, scales and > > melody runs. But this conflict doesn't really exist because that level > > of jazz teaching only works at the level where music is understood as > > "sound and expression of emotional content". This because scales and > > melodies do have there own colors just as specific notes (related to a > > key) have. Or told in other words: the true meaning of a melody is not > > the order of the notes but the emotional content it brings. > > > > This can of course be applied to live looping as well, since the > > looper also is an instrument. > > > > Greetings from Sweden > > > > Per Boysen > > www.perboysen.com > > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 6:47 AM, <mike@michaelplishka.com> wrote: > >> We all know that music is as much about the silence as it is about > >> the > >> notes. However, when doing live shows, I often struggle with finding > >> ways > >> of stripping down the performance (I use an EDP or Boomerang when I > >> loop). > >> What do the members of this esteemed group do to help give silence > >> her due? > >> > >> ~peace~ > >> > >> > >> Michael > >> > >> > >> > >> www.michaelplishka.com > >> www.scribbledmusings.com > >> > >> > >> > >