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Re: Copyrighting Improvised Music

Mark, the situation you described is basically the one that I dont want to end up in.

2012/1/18 Petri Lahtinen <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com>
I think basicallly that national copyright offices and the legislation
is so way behind, of this new business model that they are just about to realise how things should be dealt in 21st century.


2012/1/17 mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
I hear you, I just discovered that ALL the music I produce at work (basically the only thing I LIKE about my job) has to be registered at TONO (Norwegian Performing rights office) and they will charge my customers. I cant work like that. I have been previously licensing my work to my customers companies as a one shot deal. That is, its used free of charge (they are paying for a film after all) for that ONE film, but if they choose to use it somewhere else, then they must come to me.

This has worked fine, until now, when TONO discovered I was doing this and said that I couldnt be a member of TONO AND license my own stuff as I chose! I HAD to accept their way of liscensing. Which these customers would NOT accept. They do not have budgets for repeat fees, or per user fees, they have a one off, HUGE budget for one big Anti-corruption program (with freaky music).

Im still waiting on answers from people in offices on this...






On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Petri Lahtinen <kollegavalmentaja@gmail.com> wrote:
I just left the Finnish copyright association Teosto because they have restrictions of artist selling
from his/her own website. They allow only 80 minutes of material or 20 pieces to be sold?
I think that restriction is not from this century, so I'm licensing all my future work through CreativeCommons.
I know, cant get a penny from CC but at least my hands are not tied if I choose to sell my own creations.




2012/1/17 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 5:45 PM, David Gans <david@trufun.com> wrote:
> I asked mandolinist David Grisman about improvised vs. composed, and he said he thinks of improvisation as "fast composition."  It's a continuum.

Good thinking by Grisman. One could also look at it from the other
perspective and say that composition is "cheating improvisation" ;-)
(couldn't resist jumping in on that OT)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.youtube.com/perboysen




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