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Hello, After performing with Live a few times I am considering not having a computer on stage anymore. Walking over to the beast to load the next song, being drawn into the screen, just takes away from "being here now" with the public. Plus I had a couple of nothing is happening let's reboot experiences. How does the octotrack perform switching from one piece to the next. Do you have to manipulate or can you just send a pg change? Can you have more than 8 prerecorded parts ready to go at the reception of a midi message? Does it feel more solid? How does it perform as a looper? How do you Live guys switch pieces without turning techie? Antony Hequet Poet composer On 13 févr. 2012, at 11:35, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote: > Better way is to plan your setup around latency. Actions that depend > on correct timing can still be addressed with a direct control. > Actions that are quantized in a looper shouldn't be assigned to > Kapture either because the looper needs to know the given command a > bit in advance. It's just like tuning a tempered instrument; balance > the quirks to make a good enough performance possible ;-) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.perboysen.com > http://www.youtube.com/perboysen > > > > On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Philip Conway > <Philip.Conway@bristol.ac.uk> wrote: >> That thing is indeed rather amazing. The only issue is that latency >> builds >> up with large amounts of parameters being changed but maybe that's >> better on >> a faster machine (my trusty but creaky six year old macbook is nearing >> retirement age!). It also makes me realise that I really need to learn >> Max/MSP. >> >> >> Philip. >> >> >> --On 12 February 2012 23:35 +0100 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I just looked a little deeper into the Max for Live device Kapture. >>> This device offers instant recall. It lets you record and store >>> snapshots of the whole mixer plus devices settings. And this includes >>> looping plugins too! Can you see the tremendous performance power in >>> this for live looping musicians? You can totally design your own >>> looping interface like you want it. Simply decide on what control >>> commands you want, set up mixer and plugins for that and snag a >>> snapshot of it. For some snapshots you may deselect a lot of mixer >>> parameters and only have the snapshot recall the looper's settings, or >>> maybe just one of many loopers you are using. >>> >>> Snapshots can be activated in two ways. First, you mouse the drop-down >>> menu of the Kapture plugin's GUI. Second, you launch an empty clip in >>> Live that has the same name as the Kapture snapshot it's meant to >>> activate. This gives that you can handle a very complex performance >>> setup with only three MIDI pedals: Scene Up, Scene Down and Scene >>> Launch. Compare that to the classic way of assigning one pedal switch >>> for each function. Over here I will keep my 80 pedals (8 Gordius banks >>> of 10 each) and just assign three of them for Kapture. Then I'll see >>> whee this takes me. >>> >>> I just checked with Augustus Loop and every damn parameter in the >>> looper is captured by Kapture. Finally this is opening up a way to use >>> this wonderful looper plugin IRL. My issue with Augustus have always >>> been that I can't press all buttons for all things I want to make >>> happen at once. The EDP functionality design is easier to use but >>> lacks some cool stuff you can do with Augustus. With Augustus it >>> typically makes sense to keep a direct MIDI binding to the Freeze >>> Button, besides this Kapture Snapshot system. >>> >>> Finally, you may rework your setup very quickly in a modular way. Just >>> move around the live clips for different Kapture snapshots. You may >>> put several rows of them in Live's Session View (the data >>> spreadsheat-like interface) so that one Scene (all clips at the same >>> horizontal level) will only launch these Snapshot Clips. Very useful, >>> especially if you work on many projects and has an issue remembering >>> the different setups. Here you can simply read it on the screen, or >>> easily memorize it visually before a concert. >>> >>> FYI I can tell that this total recall approach for many years has been >>> the base for the French software looper Logeloop as well as for >>> Numerology. In those two apps "saving a preset" takes a snapshot of >>> everything, just like this Kapture thing. One thing I will start >>> fiddling around with now, using Augustus Loop and Kapture, is to work >>> with long bows of slow speed shifts, as this looper offers >>> non-quantized continuous speed/pitch shift. I did some of that on the >>> album with Erdem but until this Kapture I've seen a live concert tool >>> that would allow experimenting with it on stage (except for Logeloop, >>> but I can't run many of my tone shaping plugins in that Max built >>> looper so Live currently works better for me). >>> >>> Ok, signing off now. Just wanted to mention this if someone out there >>> also has been looking for these kind of tools. Oh, I should mention >>> that instant recall of everything is not all snappy. At least not >>> according to a discussion on the Max For Live forum. Some users there >>> report that not all settings change at the same time. But I'm not sure >>> that should seen as a showstopper, after all Plastikman uses Kapture >>> every night to coordinate both Ableton Live mix mashup improvisation >>> and synced video. >>> >>> Greetings from Sweden >>> >>> Per Boysen >>> www.perboysen.com >>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >>> >> >> >> >> >