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I did note in previous mail that a Note On/ Note Off pair has not worked for me when passing MIDI thru Live to Echoloop VST, but that passing two Note On messages, both at 127 (not 127 and 0), is working very well. On Apr 14, 2012, at 1:04 PM, andy butler wrote: > Jeff Larson wrote: > >> Now how Live responds to these extra events is another matter. I doubt >> that it will fail to pass a Note Off to Mobius just because it receives >> a CC after the Note On. > > sounds reasonable, there have been reports that it simply doesn't pass > Note-Off. > > >> Does anyone have proof of that? > > No, the baffling world of Ableton seems to defy analysis. > > I'm pretty sure I had it working fine in Live 8.1. > and without touching "midi learn". > > andy >