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What buffer size are you running at when looping? R On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 7:01 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote: > well, I used the word "click" with no further explanation but I guess > what I meant was more like "pre recorded". You know, "the click" > doesn't need to be rhythmical. In the duo with Erdem we do concerts > using our whole album as "the click" to improvise around. I found a > Max For Live "visual metronome" that blinks the tempo for the parts > where "the click" flows non rhythmical. > > Per > > > > On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 3:01 AM, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> > wrote: >> Per, playing to a click! Woah. I never thought I would read that >> statement. It does like a good idea though to make yourself work in a >> new way. >> >> Thanks for the reports. I've been doing a bunch of experimenting with >> my looping setup lately(In Mainstage as well) so I will definitely give >> Live a solid test run again. >> -------------------- >> Todd Matthews >> toddbass.com >> twitter: gtodd876 >> >> On Apr 14, 2012, at 5:17 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I just want to report on my happiness and frustration with using >>> Ableton Live as my looper host. On the happy side is that I'm finding >>> Live 8.3 way more CPU efficient than my other two usual host >>> applications Plogue Bidule and Mainstage. The dark side is that Live >>> is no good when slaved by MIDI Clock to a hosted looper plugin. This >>> setup causes regular audio dropouts. That's not fun since I'm a big >>> fan of "trash-looping" where you instantly delete and rebuild the loop >>> during a performance, resulting in constant tempo changes. I've done >>> many tests and it just doesn't work in Live. So I'm now trying to >>> learn how to adapt to the click and still stay creative with my >>> looping. But there are other goodies in Live - one important fun >>> factor is that you can bring in sequencing and set up random scripted >>> slicing of canned loops playback along with the live looping. And the >>> option to record multiple channels at 24/48 suits me fine (Bidule can >>> do that too). Thanks to Max For Live I found a good tuner plugin as >>> well, which comes in handy with a 12 stringed instrument :-) and I >>> have also discovered that Live's own "Amp and Cabinet" plugin sounds >>> ok for Stick and guitar. Not as good to my ears as the Amp Designer in >>> Mainstage and not as good as Amplitube 3 but in the recent version >>> Amplitube 3 tends to crash host applications or render saved documents >>> corrupt. >>> >>> Bottom line is I'm happy with Live now. >>> >>> I'm also fine with saving the wildest sessions for Mainstage. >>> Mainstage is less CPU efficient but as long as you stay under the red >>> zone it works flawlessly as a slave, MIDI Clock synced host >>> application for a looper. You can just trash everything in Mobius and >>> start a new loop while the music is going and Mainstage smoothly >>> adapts to the new tempo without an audio glitch while you hear all >>> delays and termolo stuff slowing/speeding into the new tempo. Very >>> cool. I will miss that in Live. Live may become my suit-and-tie-job >>> host app and Mainstage my party-on host ;-)) Nothing bad in that, as >>> long as you are aware about it. >>> >>> Greetings from Sweden >>> >>> Per Boysen >>> www.perboysen.com >>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >>> >> >