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Re: City Lights Music Festival and its comparison to a loop fest



Are you responding to something someone else wrote? I didn't say that loopers delight is only for "live looping".

Matt

On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Tyler <programmer651@comcast.net> wrote:
Give me the page on loopers-delight.com (NOT a mailing list archive; a page from
Tools, Tips and Tricks, etc.) that says "This site is for live looping only! I repeat,
LIVE!" Where does it say that? The home page says the opposite. I discovered this website when
Googling tape loops, and tape loops are usually prerecorded.
Tyler Z
On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 15:44:10 -0700, Matt Davignon wrote:



>Hmmm, I think we need to accept that some things are different than other
>things, and that's ok. For example, if you see an apple, and you really like
>oranges, you could tell the apple that it has seeds, and a skin, and is the
>reproductive part of the plant, which makes it pretty much the same thing as an
>orange. However, the apple has been an apple for a while, and understands
>apple-ness pretty well. However, nothing that the apple thinks should prevent
>you from enjoying oranges.
>In a way that "jungle music" wasn't necessarily made in jungles, and
>experimental music isn't the result of people in lab coats following the
>scientific method, "Live Looping" for many people means a very specific
>interaction between instrument and technology - where the performer is both
>generating the instrumental sounds live and sampling them live.
>Yes, a DJ can can create loops in real time, but more often than not, the music
>itself was created by someone other than the DJ. In my experience, about 9 out
>of 10 DJs are not composers or instrumentalists while they are DJ'ing. They are
>playing other people's music, and making only tiny changes to completed pieces
>of music to blend them together into a longer set. The value of a DJ set is the
>value of a curator - the DJ goes out and finds good music that you haven't
>heard yet and plays it. The DJs who compose are few and far between - the ones
>who actually create original music are even fewer and more far in between.
>(Those such as RJD2 often get credit for composing something when all they did
>was loop someone else's music and put a extra drum beat on it.)
>Sorry - got off on a tangent there. In short, many things that use loops are
>not "live looping". You can still like whatever you want to like.
>--
>Matt Davignon
>mattdavignon@gmail.com
>www.ribosomemusic.com
>Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com
>On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Tyler <programmer651@comcast.net> wrote:
>Hello, everybody! I know it's kind of too late, but I want to post about the
>City Lights
>Music Festival for future reference. This year, it was yesterday and today. I
>was there yesterday, and I
>have recordings. Remember when I said that a Grand Rapids, Michigan loop fest
>would be amazing?
>Well, it's not really touted as a loop fest, but the City Lights Music Festival
>(touted as an
>electronic music festival) has a lot of qualities that a loop fest has. There's
>something many
>people don't realize; you say the biggest city in Michigan is Detroit, and
>that's right! But Grand
>Rapids is the SECOND biggest. It's a growing city, and we hope more events can
>take place
>there; maybe a real loop fest! Who knows? But the City Lights Music Festival
>frequently
>made use of something that is very similar to live looping. Most of the samples
>that the festival DJ'S
>used were prerecorded, but if the DJ'S just put on the music and left it alone,
>the sample would just
>play. But the DJ'S kept hitting repeat buttons on specific parts of the
>samples, making it
>"live" looping, so to speak. I don't have my recording of the CLMF online, but
>you can find out more about
>it here:
>http://www.citylightsmusicfestival.com
>Tyler Z




--
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon@gmail.com
www.ribosomemusic.com
Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com