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Re: City Lights Music Festival and its comparison to a loop fest



You said looping festivals were apples, and I sent you an "orange link."
Tyler Z
On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 22:02:22 -0700, Matt Davignon wrote:



>Are you responding to something someone else wrote? I didn't say that 
>loopers 
>delight is only for "live looping". 
>Matt
>On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Tyler <programmer651@comcast.net> wrote:
>Give me the page on loopers-delight.com (NOT a mailing list archive; a 
>page from
>Tools, Tips and Tricks, etc.) that says "This site is for live looping 
>only! I 
>repeat,
>LIVE!" Where does it say that? The home page says the opposite. I 
>discovered 
>this website when
>Googling tape loops, and tape loops are usually prerecorded.
>Tyler Z
>On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 15:44:10 -0700, Matt Davignon wrote:
>>Hmmm, I think we need to accept that some things are different than other
>>things, and that's ok. For example, if you see an apple, and you really 
>>like
>>oranges, you could tell the apple that it has seeds, and a skin, and is 
>>the
>>reproductive part of the plant, which makes it pretty much the same 
>>thing as an
>>orange. However, the apple has been an apple for a while, and understands
>>apple-ness pretty well. However, nothing that the apple thinks should 
>>prevent
>>you from enjoying oranges.
>>In a way that "jungle music" wasn't necessarily made in jungles, and
>>experimental music isn't the result of people in lab coats following the
>>scientific method, "Live Looping" for many people means a very specific
>>interaction between instrument and technology - where the performer is 
>>both
>>generating the instrumental sounds live and sampling them live.
>>Yes, a DJ can can create loops in real time, but more often than not, 
>>the music
>>itself was created by someone other than the DJ. In my experience, about 
>>9 out
>>of 10 DJs are not composers or instrumentalists while they are DJ'ing. 
>>They are
>>playing other people's music, and making only tiny changes to completed 
>>pieces
>>of music to blend them together into a longer set. The value of a DJ set 
>>is the
>>value of a curator - the DJ goes out and finds good music that you 
>>haven't
>>heard yet and plays it. The DJs who compose are few and far between - 
>>the ones
>>who actually create original music are even fewer and more far in 
>>between.
>>(Those such as RJD2 often get credit for composing something when all 
>>they did
>>was loop someone else's music and put a extra drum beat on it.)
>>Sorry - got off on a tangent there. In short, many things that use loops 
>>are
>>not "live looping". You can still like whatever you want to like.
>>--
>>Matt Davignon
>>mattdavignon@gmail.com
>>www.ribosomemusic.com
>>Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com
>>On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Tyler <programmer651@comcast.net> wrote:
>>Hello, everybody! I know it's kind of too late, but I want to post about 
>>the
>>City Lights
>>Music Festival for future reference. This year, it was yesterday and 
>>today. I
>>was there yesterday, and I
>>have recordings. Remember when I said that a Grand Rapids, Michigan loop 
>>fest
>>would be amazing?
>>Well, it's not really touted as a loop fest, but the City Lights Music 
>>Festival
>>(touted as an
>>electronic music festival) has a lot of qualities that a loop fest has. 
>>There's
>>something many
>>people don't realize; you say the biggest city in Michigan is Detroit, 
>>and
>>that's right! But Grand
>>Rapids is the SECOND biggest. It's a growing city, and we hope more 
>>events can
>>take place
>>there; maybe a real loop fest! Who knows? But the City Lights Music 
>>Festival
>>frequently
>>made use of something that is very similar to live looping. Most of the 
>>samples
>>that the festival DJ'S
>>used were prerecorded, but if the DJ'S just put on the music and left it 
>>alone,
>>the sample would just
>>play. But the DJ'S kept hitting repeat buttons on specific parts of the
>>samples, making it
>>"live" looping, so to speak. I don't have my recording of the CLMF 
>>online, but
>>you can find out more about
>>it here:
>>http://www.citylightsmusicfestival.com
>>Tyler Z
>-- 
>Matt Davignon
>mattdavignon@gmail.com
>www.ribosomemusic.com
>Podcast! http://ribosomematt.podomatic.com