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I love live looping (real live looping, like Per Boysen or you or Michael Peters) just as much as you guys do. I just have this, to put it politely, "quirk," whenever I hear a looped sample (it has to be a looped sample; manual repetition doesn't have the same effect on me), I just feel excited! Whether it be your Boysens and Davignons or your Chers and Imogens. lol. I advertised this looping-like festival just for records, and I'm inviting DJ'S to LD, because repeated samples get us GOING!! Tyler Z On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 13:41:25 -0700, Rick Walker wrote: >On 8/22/12 7:58 PM, Tyler wrote: >>Give me the page on loopers-delight.com (NOT a mailing list archive; a >>page from >>Tools, Tips and Tricks, etc.) that says "This site is for live looping >>only! I >>repeat, >>LIVE!" Where does it say that? The home page says the opposite. I >>discovered >>this website when >>Googling tape loops, and tape loops are usually prerecorded. > >Loopers Delight does not specifically promote the concept of live looping. >In fact, our founder, Kim Flint, was very worried that the preponderance >of live loopers >on the forum might overwhelm other modes of using loops in music. > >But the fact of the matter is that this forum is populated almost >entirely by people >who ARE live loopers. > >It sort of is what it is. > >Everyone's down with whatever you want to do, whatever you want to >listen to, but >this is a forum full of intelligent musicians who have strong ideas >about all things. >If you say, "I love such and such" for whatever reason, you will >probably always have >someone say, "what on earth are you thing" and a debate will ensue. > >Matt Davignon is making a good point about DJs without making any value >judgment about >what it is you enjoy (he even carefully said it in his post). > >We live in the age of Djs.In fact, probably 50% of all the people I >talk to about live looping who don't understand >what it is, ask, "Oh, so you mean you are a DJ". > >It takes skill to be a DJ and mad skills to be one of the best in the >class of performers..........but I agree with Matt when he says that 90% >of all DJs are NOT composers, that they are merely cleverly >manipulating music that has already been composed and recorded......and >almost invariably (though there are rare exception) they are NOT playing >music >that they even created themselves. > >As a live looping artist, I get really tired (and sometimes bitchy) >about being compared to DJs because >I've worked so much harder learning how to make music in my life than >the lion's share of Djs that I know personally >and the general population frequently doesn't even 'get' that. > >Do I value what they do? Usually, yes and they are ubiquitous. > >But I don't think it is wrong to have a sense of pride that we are >actually making music from scratch >when we perform in a live looping setting. > >You keep coming up against that specific pride that exists in this forum >and it seems to continually bug you, >but it just is what it is and it doesn't have to take away from anything >that you love or wish to do >in your own musical life. I believe people in this community support >you to like what you like here. It would also be nice for you to >accept what it is that most of us actually do, musically, in the same >breath. >on this forum in the same breath.