Re: Any news on LP2, anyone?

[Jim Bjorklun <jbjorklun@yahoo.com>]

Interesting perspective Andy - thanks for mentioning that. My current 
looper is a RiffBox, which also requires a loop to start at the beginning 
of a bar...

But in cases (like you mention) where a loop isn't best initiated at the 
beginning of the 1st bar, a workaround is to start at the middle of the 
loop.

So with 2-bar loop, you'd start at the beginning of bar 2 and cycle 
through bar 1 to that point again.  Once the looping starts, it gives the 
impression of a seamless loop starting at bar 1.

I could see this workaround/solution also applying for the Pigtronix 
Infinity.

- Jim


--- On Mon, 11/12/12, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: Any news on LP2, anyone?
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Date: Monday, November 12, 2012, 2:51 AM
> Jim Bjorklun wrote:
> 
> > 2) When synching a LP2 loop to MIDI clock, how does the
> loop recording start and stop work? For example, the
> Pigtronix Infinity does this:
> > 
> > --> Rec – Recording starts at the start of the
> next measure after the switch has been pressed.
> > --> Stop – Stops loop audio at the start of the
> next measure after the switch has been pressed.
> > 
> > This strikes me as an elegant method, and I'm curious
> if the LP2 also operates like this, or in a different way.
> > 
> 
> Rick will fill in the answers, but on this point.
> 
> That's *not* a good way to do record for midi sync,
> although it probably seems to be if you haven't actually
> used sync.
> To assume that the 'riff' (or whatever) starts at the
> beginning of the bar
> is just really strange, perhaps influenced by drum machine
> programming
> and some sample based music. A lot of time the musician
> plays a lead in beat to the start
> of the bar, and quite often the first beat is accented by
> placing it slightly
> forward in time.
> What's needed is to start to record straight away, but end
> the recording automatically
> so that loop length becomes an exact multiple of the bar
> length.
> 
> That's how the LP1 works when syncing tracks internally,
> it's the tried and
> tested method on any well designed product, so I'd guess
> that's what the LP2 does.
> 
> I like the Pigtronix stuff a lot, but they don't have the
> long history of working with live looping that's needed to
> really get that right.
> 
> andy
> 
>