RE: About the absence of Undo in the Octatrack

[Anders Bergdahl <anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com>]

Love that Zappa quote :-) I agree a lot with using a instrument for what it's good at. If you look at the Octatrack and want full looper functionality from ONE pickup machine you will be dissapointed. both if you want a Boss style looper or if you are looking for a more experimental instrument like the EDP. BUT if you both let the unique features of the Octa inspire and spend some time thinking out workarounds for you own "must functions". 

By using two pickup machines and a re-sample pickup machine, perhaps with some clever MIDI functions for ease of use you can easily replicate the UNDO/REDO that lets you play something quickly erase it if you don't like att redo with something new.

Another UNDO/REDO is the ability to replicate more looping track, you do a base loop, add something press undo to go back to what was there before (peeling away a layer ) and the REDO to add it back in.. that is easily done with a multi track looper so easily that you do not need the function for THAT reason.

I have managed to fake "quantizised replace" for some LP2, EDP style semi stutter, even loop windowing  of sorts can be done by having a short loop, loop a longer loop.. in fact it is probably a very unique Octatrack feature since you can loop a part of a longer loop several times during the duration of the longer loop. I do this in two way, by having one longer master loop and the setting up a shorter loop that listens t o the longer. OR re-sampling with a "flex machine" which allows me to replay the loop, or parts of it on the sequencer and looper, pitchifts or anything you could imagine taking looping loops from loops to new levels of crazyness. 

Anders

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From: sdclements@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 07:56:55 -0700
Subject: Re: About the absence of Undo in the Octatrack
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com


I hear ya man... the looping pick up machine was what prompted me to buy it... but then, well you know, I managed to watch eBay pickup a Gibson/Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro

I home the new EDP will come out this year...

On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Sergio Girardi <simpliflying@gmail.com> wrote:

Pag 2 of the manual, suggested uses of the Octatrack: the first suggested use is LOOPER DEVICE.
So, do not tell me this please.
As also I would like to shut up (sorry, I am angry, normally I am nicer) those who tell me "you should have read the manual before buying it, and would have noticed the absence of reference to undo.
200 pages of manual damn it! Are you kidding me? I still didnt read it all after months!
Anyway.
I have decided to buy a proper looper battery operated.
I have read the thread best battery operated looper, but no comparison made, just names.
The dl4 can be nice because I need a delay also but one loop is no deal.
The lil is ok but limited.
The lp2 can undo but not redo, uff...

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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 14:00:25 -0800
Subject: Re: About the absence of Undo in the Octatrack
From: toddbert@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

An Octatrack is not a looper. It's a sampler which can do a few simple looping tricks. 

T

On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 2:11 AM, Sergio Girardi <simpliflying@gmail.com> wrote:

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH

THis cannot be true, I must be having a nightmare!
How can I be so unlucky to fall from the Boomerang to something which costs the double and cannot even UNDO a damn wrong overdub?
Did they ever had a looper in their hand before projecting the pickup machines?????????????????????
Any cheap looper can Undo and a 1200 euro octatrack can undo lot of things but not a overdub?

Anders, did you find a workaround?
I try to figure out if I can use more tracks to workaround this but, really I am absolutely and totally indigned with Elektron.

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