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Anders!
:) You have fans in the Elektron community :) It does not really change much but I would like to ask you: would you suggest the use of the OT as only looper? I am fascineted now by the idea of having another looper like the LP2, able to undo, to work on batteries, to do many things, and to be synced, or to keep the Boomerang (if the new firmware which I will try out soon will prove to be sold and to make it synced with the OT) and then buy a lil looper for street performances when and if I will need it. I have for now totally left aside Ableton because I have no time to learn so many things and I cannot cope with other problems to solve (like syncing the OT master and Ableton slave which is said to be a titanic effort). I say it does not change much, because in any case I will first get deeper with the OT, so I will probably find out myself hat I can and cannot cope about the OT. But I am interested in your opinion. Would you mind explaining more how to configure a midi controller to have two pickup machines or three, as you said, working together to make undo/redo? And I also did not understand what you said about the multitrack looper. The OT can be considered a multitrack looper but my concern is that I have found myself, with the Boomerang, using all four loops because I like to minimize the use of overdub, I mean, I like to be able to have for example two or three rhytmic parts which I can loop, play, stop, mute separately (which I do not know how to get if I put the three of them in one loops as overdubs), so that I can to techno beatbox with variating rhythmic patterns. SO I organize things in different loops, and I start overdubbing only when I have covered the available loops. The octatrack has 8 tracks, I was happy of the idea of 8 separate loops, or 4 loops and 4 samples/flex (where by loop I mean something I improvise, and by sample something I have already prepared or downloaded). If I need 2 or 3 tracks for each loop which I want to be able to undo, hmmm. Or these 3 pickup could all work as separate loops and all be able to undo, in some way, feeding each other? Can you say more please? And how do you do exactly this of a longer master loop? In the manual they suggest that the master should be shorter. Ser From: anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: About the absence of Undo in the Octatrack Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 16:40:01 +0000
Love that Zappa quote :-) I agree a lot with using a instrument for what it's good at. If you look at the Octatrack and want full looper functionality from ONE pickup machine you will be dissapointed. both if you want a Boss style looper or if you are looking for a more experimental instrument like the EDP. BUT if you both let the unique features of the Octa inspire and spend some time thinking out workarounds for you own "must functions". By using two pickup machines and a re-sample pickup machine, perhaps with some clever MIDI functions for ease of use you can easily replicate the UNDO/REDO that lets you play something quickly erase it if you don't like att redo with something new. Another UNDO/REDO is the ability to replicate more looping track, you do a base loop, add something press undo to go back to what was there before (peeling away a layer ) and the REDO to add it back in.. that is easily done with a multi track looper so easily that you do not need the function for THAT reason. I have managed to fake "quantizised replace" for some LP2, EDP style semi stutter, even loop windowing of sorts can be done by having a short loop, loop a longer loop.. in fact it is probably a very unique Octatrack feature since you can loop a part of a longer loop several times during the duration of the longer loop. I do this in two way, by having one longer master loop and the setting up a shorter loop that listens t o the longer. OR re-sampling with a "flex machine" which allows me to replay the loop, or parts of it on the sequencer and looper, pitchifts or anything you could imagine taking looping loops from loops to new levels of crazyness. Anders From: sdclements@gmail.com Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 07:56:55 -0700 Subject: Re: About the absence of Undo in the Octatrack To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com I hear ya man... the looping pick up machine was what prompted me to buy it... but then, well you know, I managed to watch eBay pickup a Gibson/Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro I home the new EDP will come out this year... On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Sergio Girardi <simpliflying@gmail.com> wrote:
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