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Hi Phil, You didn't mention MIDI Clock but I guess that's the protocol you used for driving Live as the sync slave to Mobius. Echoloop doesn't send out MIDI Clock so you need to fix that first. One idea could be to use Bidule, either the standalone Bidule as your Echoloop host or the Bidule plugin carrying an Echoloop instance inside Live. In both scenarios you would need to hook up the Echoloop sync output with a Bidule object that translates "sync to MIDI Clock" and then send that through IAC into Live. I have not done this myself and just mentioning it like this makes my hair stand up and all kinds of evil demons begin to manifest in the dark corners of my room... :-) (like the lovely Minecraft: where darkness exists monsters will appear!) Oh, good luck!!! :-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Philip Clevenger <phil.clevenger@gmail.com> wrote: > Any Echoloop users out there ever succeed to get it to drive Ableton > Live’s tempo? > > Live’s native looper does this quite nicely. > > Mobius does this with use of the IAC bus to route MIDI. > > I’ve tried everything I possibly can with Echoloop - I am wondering if > the feature just does not work (bug) in which case - fine at least I > know and can stop trying ! But if anyone else has actually made it work > - do let me know :) > > Best, > > Phil :) > > > > > > On Nov 24, 2013, at 4:40 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > >> Right, got it. >> >> If you're using Quant what you're getting *is* the expected behaviour. >> >> If the Sub is still waiting to start the Note-Off is ignored, >> unless your doing it via InsertMode. >> >> Unfortunately it's something that didn't get fixed in Loop4. >> >> now read on >> >> >> On 24/11/2013 12:17, mark francombe wrote: >>> I have triple checked The note off. weirdly if i set the pedal to do a >>> regular insert, and set the insert mode to sub, ( + 8ths + quantise >>> on) it works as expected, the typical 8 note sequencer sound. But >>> setting it to direct midi, substitute, doesnt work! This is annoying, >>> as I dont want to have to change presets for this effect, as i tend to >>> use presets simply as different 8th note settings... >>> >>> BUT! I have another problem, cant believe its related tho. >>> After power up, ONE of my edps has feedback set to 0, and plays a loop >>> only once, I have tried to save a preset with feedback set to 127, and >>> I can change presets and back again and keep this setting. Plus all >>> other settings in that preset are retained. BUT after a restart, it >>> always reverts to feedback =0!! I thought it may be a battery, but as >>> I say all other settings seem to be ok! >> >> Don't think fbk is saved in the preset. >> >>> >>> As the 2 edps are linked via brother, it might be that one is >>> affecting the other... but I don't know. >>> I also can't say when this started happening, and if it's the same >>> time as my other problem. >> >> Well, now we know it's not related to the other problem. >> >> First, the workaround is RecordMode=SAF. >> Apart from that, I don't know. >> >> Have you tried different Loop/Delay Modes? >> >> Could it be something sent by the Gordius on it's boot up? >> >> Do you have anything plugged into the expression pedal socket? >> Or maybe that's faulty itself. Don't know if the socket has switches, >> or if they'd produce this result on fail, but those do >> get oxidised and stop making contact sometimes. >> >> If it was the other edp doing this then normally it would also have >> fbk=0 >> >> >> Don't remember coming across this before, needs a bit of fault finding. >> >> >> andy >> >> >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> Sent from my (advertisement removed) >>> >>>> On 24 Nov 2013, at 13:02, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>> The symptoms point to a lack of (or incorrect) Note-Off >>>> in the second message stream >>>> >>>> andy >>>> ps. didn't see this post before >>>> >>>>> On 23/11/2013 19:23, mark francombe wrote: >>>>> Is it OK to bump this? >>>>> Andy??? Mathias? >>>>> Ive been trying all sorts of things for 3 hours now.. cant figure it >>>>> out!! >>>>> >>>>> Problem follows... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 11:48 PM, mark francombe >>>>> <mark@markfrancombe.com <mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Just been programming a few things into my Gordius, and suddenly >>>>> realised that my Sus Substitute pedal wasn't working properly... >>>>> >>>>> Im sure it should be correctly programmed Ive tried both >>>>> >>>>> A# 10 SubstituteButton Virtually presses the “Substitute Button” >>>>> and >>>>> A# 22 SUSSubstitute Sustain Action Substitute >>>>> >>>>> Im sure theres something weird in the preset, but dont know what. >>>>> >>>>> This is whats happening. I can make a loop as normal with REC and >>>>> OVERDUB and MULTIPLY no problem (mention that cos it might have been >>>>> due to 0 feedback setting) >>>>> >>>>> But now I hit this Sus Sub pedal and sound stops dead, and I get >>>>> exactly 1 repeat. Exactly like Ive gone into Overdub, but with >>>>> Feedback reduced to 0... >>>>> >>>>> What is THIS??? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Mark >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> /_Mark Francombe_/ >>>>> www.markfrancombe.com <http://www.markfrancombe.com/> >>>>> www.ordoabkhao.com <http://www.ordoabkhao.com/> >>>>> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >>>>> http://www.looop.no <http://www.looop.no/> >>>>> twitter @markfrancombe >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> /_Mark Francombe_/ >>>>> www.markfrancombe.com <http://www.markfrancombe.com/> >>>>> www.ordoabkhao.com <http://www.ordoabkhao.com/> >>>>> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >>>>> http://www.looop.no <http://www.looop.no/> >>>>> twitter @markfrancombe >>>> >>> >>> >> >