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Re: Software looping



My dream audio interface is the new UAD Apollo Twin Thunderbolt.
http://www.uaudio.com/interfaces/apollo-twin.html

Works with an Apple laptop with Thunderbolt connection.

I remember Bill Walker said he is very pleased with his Twin, but I
can't remember if he has the USB or the Thunderbolt version. Anyway,
the good thing with them is that the audio interface does some
processing so that can be used to tweak a live sound with no latency
(guitar tone? Reverb?). The UAD plugins are also great in studio
recording and a few of them comes bundled with the Twin, but if you
want more you need to buy them separately. If I didn't already have an
excellent solution with my, somewhat bulky, AxeFxII I would be going
for the slick and portable Twin.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.youtube.com/perboysen


On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 1:19 AM, Josh Elliott <jrelliott500@gmail.com> 
wrote:
> I do have to get a new laptop anyway if I take this rig on the road. I'm
> also getting a new interface no matter what cuz my old art is known for
> latency issues.. That being said in excited to say I've gotten Ableton 
> clips
> in session mode to behave almost like the boomerang 3 by switching launch
> mode to toggle. With monitoring to off I have no latency, everything 
> syncs
> and I think on the cusp of a workaround of effects by setting up a dummy
> track.
>
> On Dec 5, 2015 8:14 AM, "Per Boysen" <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> A better computer won't fix that kind of latency. You simply must
>> avoid to run real-time live audio through the software. Loops are ok,
>> because they won't make sound until the latest recorded layer loops
>> back again (given the software applies latency compensation).
>>
>> The solution is like I mentioned in my first post in this thread; use
>> direct monitoring of your live input. If you want synced effects run
>> them in a pedal or rack device BEFORE the looper and have the looper
>> (or its host appl) send a tempo sync signal back to the effect
>> devices, first in your audio chain. (Instrument --> synced effect
>> devices --> software looper tempo master)
>>
>> Greetings from Sweden
>>
>> Per Boysen
>> www.perboysen.com
>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Josh Elliott <jrelliott500@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I used jbridge and got mobius in there. I think my old dell laptop is
>> > making
>> > the latency be a problem that is making this experience difficult.
>> > Example:
>> > to use live's effects or plug ins on a live instrument channel you 
>> > have
>> > to
>> > monitor the input which causes you to hear the latency. And the 
>> > latency
>> > is
>> > like 30 milliseconds..enough to severely affect the timing. So I'm at 
>> > a
>> > crossroads. I have to consider if I want to continue down this road 
>> > I'll
>> > have to invest in a better computer. The power and possibilities of 
>> > this
>> > system are endless but its definitely not plug and play. I was reading
>> > that
>> > Ed Sheeran went to software and it it took him and his tech months to
>> > get it
>> > all working..(Mobius in Ableton)
>> >
>> > On Dec 5, 2015 4:23 AM, "Per Boysen" <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 4:37 AM, Josh Elliott <jrelliott500@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Does she use Mobius in Live or just Live?
>> >>
>> >> She composes and produces the recordings in Logic. For live show
>> >> preparation she has been using Ableton Live. She also has an
>> >> Eletrixpro Repeater, a discontinued rack looper machine that plays 
>> >> one
>> >> loop with four tracks. Several alternative loops can be cues to 
>> >> switch
>> >> between them. I had a Repeater long ago, great device.
>> >>
>> >> >It looks like for me Mobius is out
>> >> > as I have the 64 bit version of Live and it wont recognize Mobius.
>> >>
>> >> There is a software adapter for running 32 bit plugins in 64 bit
>> >> hosts: http://www.soundradix.com/products/32-lives/
>> >>
>> >> You can also use Bitwig instead of Live, as Bitwig is a 64 bit DAW
>> >> that also supports 32 bit plugins. http://www.bitwig.com/
>> >>
>> >> Greetings from Sweden
>> >>
>> >> Per Boysen
>> >> www.perboysen.com
>> >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen
>> >>
>> >
>>
>