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The Record command isn't "simple" :-) First time you use it in a session it initiates calculation of what tempo you are playing in (if not running Mobius as slave sync to some tempo master clock source) and this is super important for those who want to stack up effects that should automatically be set to the same tempo (delay, tremolo etc). Also, a long-press of the Record deletes everything and resets the session. If running many parallel loops, on several tracks, a Record command applied to a one-and-only loop (no other loops stacked on the same track) on the Master Track will induce a new tempo by force - even though you have other loops running, thus (probably) making these loops go out of tempo. And if going NextTrack with a Record added you may experience a bump in the timing, which is not happening of using the pref's TimeCopy function to create a new, empty, loop in Overdub mode or Multiply mode. Or simply in plain Playback mode so you can kick in Overdub and add stuff when get the feeling right. That's why many leave the Record command to be used only when laying down the very first loop. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.perboysen.com http://www.youtube.com/perboysen On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Robert Craig Thomas <robert@robertcthomas.com> wrote: > Per, thanks for the detailed answers, very very much appreciated. > > What you mentioned here I've discovered by accident, but I wasn't (and > still > am not sure) how to control it... > "Oh, I just remembered another thing with Multiply that may be > confusing if > your not aware of it: If you go NextLoop and then give a > Multiply command in the lame-duck-period the audio of the first Loop > will > be copied into the new loop. Can be quite useful." > > Actually, I'm only using the NextLoop and NextTrack Multiply commands > after > I've recorded my first Loop (usually 2 or 4 bars of a basic rhythm), so > the > base-time stays within multiples of the initial base-loop (Track / Sync > Settings are all set to Track/Loop). > > But I prefer Multiply to the simple Record command (even though both > function the same way once the base-loop-size is set) because with > Multiply > it's easier to see how many Loop-cycles I've used as I record (having a > mouth-open Pacman circle rather than just having the steady red dot). > > Anyway, I wonder how many other mysterious but important things I still > need > to know (like the Wait Loop) command.. I hope not too many... ;-) > > Thanks again, > Bob Thomas > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Robert Craig Thomas >> <robert@robertcthomas.com> wrote: >> > re: NextLoop + Multiply ... I've discovered that I need to use "Wait >> > Loop" >> > when I want to use "NextLoop" + "Multiply" in a script... >> >> Yep, "Wait Loop" an underestimated line :-) >> >> > for some reason >> > Mobius waits automatically when reading a script "NextLoop" + "Record" >> >> I suppose that reason has to do with the globally set SwitchQuant >> setting? If a command typically waits for a SwitchQuant cusp to kick >> does so no matter if triggered from a MIDI pedal, an on-screen button >> or a script. >> >> BTW, why do you want to throw a Record when arriving into a new loop? >> Record also erases the global tempo in case you by mistake give it >> when on the master track (the track you created the first loop on) >> with only one loop. I personally prefer to set the global pref's for >> Time Copy to create a new loop of one cycle's length in Multiply mode. >> Then you can just start adding new audio to loop #2 on the track, >> safely knowing that the length of the loop will keep multiplying, by >> adding one cycle, until you give a Multiply command to set the new >> loop length and stop overdubbing. >> >> Oh, I just remembered another thing with Multiply that may be >> confusing if your not aware of it: If you go NextLoop and then give a >> Multiply command in the lame-duck-period the audio of the first loop >> will be copied into the new loop. Can be quite useful. >> >> A good way to get a hang of scripting is to search out forum threads >> for the looping maneuvers you are interested in and simply copy >> scripts other users have posted on the forum. Then you can make >> changes to the scripts and learn on the way. >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.perboysen.com >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen >> > > > > -- > Robert C Thomas, Gütersloh, Germany > Handy 0176 504 36157 - Home 05241 307 1777