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Sender: lists@slip.net Received: from ferret.slip.net (ferret.slip.net [207.171.193.6]) by hil-img-6.com puserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id OAA25937; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 14:25:08 -0400 Received: from lists by ferret.slip.net with local (Exim 1.61 #2) id 0wa3hA-0001TI-00; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 11:25:04 -0700 X-Sender: kflint@pop2.slip.net (Unverified) Message-Id: <v03102800afbdfa497779@[207.171.197.17]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-mailer: Eudora Pro 2.1.3 Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 11:15:10 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint <kflint@annihilist.com> Subject: fun with retriggering and anti-guitar diatribes Resent-Message-ID: <"MwvlGB.A.XUB.8UFmz"@ferret> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com> archive/latest/175 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: SmartList <lists@slip.net> Resent-To: Russell_Gorton@creatsvc-ada.ccmail.compuserve.com Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 11:25:04 -0700 Hi everyone- Last night I was amusing myself with a loop technique that I though I'd share with the group. But first, a mini diatribe about guitars and their owners! I've played guitar since I was 7. It wasn't even my idea, my parents just signed me up for the lessons. It's ok, I enjoy playing, so I forgive them for that. But I guess being around the damn thing for so long has driven me to boredom. Talking about guitars has gotten dull. Listening to guitar music has gotten very dull. And my playing of the guitar is frequently hitting periods of indifference. I guess that's what leads me in more exotic directions both in listening and creating. But everywhere I go: guitar, guitar, guitar. Yawn, yawn, yawn. Why is it that when a few guitar players are around, that's all they talk about? I'm pretty guilty myself, but it's always kind of self-conscious. I'm thinking, if I'm bored, that poor theremin player in the corner must be dying! So anyway, the point is, I'm going to spend more of my limited time here talking about looping, and less about guitars. [Don't take this as "list-owner exerting power" or anything. All you other guitar players feel free to talk about it all you like here. If it's important to your music, it's relevent. Censorship ain't my thing.] Now, Looping! I was playing with retriggering loops. I like this effect, probably because I heard hip-hoppers doing it at a young age or something. I like making the little stuttering sounds. This time, however, I did something a little different. I had recorded a rhythmic sort of loop, 4 bars of 4/4 I think. There were some overdubs, so it was a reasonably full sounding loop, but not very dense. So then I started retriggering it. (mute-insert on the plex. Each insert then retriggers again) For some reason I let it play longer than usual before retriggering, and realized I had just thrown a 3/4 bar into my groove. Cool! I proceeded to go nuts with time signatures, by retriggering my loop at different points in the rhythm, and continuing to do it to get a new groove. Performing with the retrigger actually! I found that I could easily convert my 4/4 groove to 3/4, 5/4, 7/4, 7/8, whatever. Each one had an interesting new character of it's own. Some ideas I had were: (each of these are one pass, and should be repeated to get a groove) Retr - beat - Retr - beat - beat 5/4 Retr - beat - beat - beat - beat 5/4 Retr - beat - Retr - beat - Retr - beat - beat 7/4 Retr - beat - beat - Retr - beat - beat - beat different 7/4 well, you get the idea. Different initial loop content resulted in different sorts of new rhthyms. Each one developed all sorts of new characters as the time signature was dynamically changed. anyway, gotta go. have fun! kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com