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Thanks for sharing some of your technique with the Celtic looping. Sounds very complex and intriguing to me. As a 3 month old looper, I just loop major, minor 11, and altered chords together in basic fingerstyle riffs, somtimes overdub stuff, then solo over them. It's helping my solo work a lot. I'm just starting to use the next loop function. Give me a shout if you have any tapes, etc, you'd like to swap? Grover t 04:37 PM 6/8/97 -0500, you wrote: >I'm not in the U.K., in fact, I'm in Indiana, but I do a bit of looping >with Celtic songs. I'm a percussionist so I play the melody lines with >marimba, glockekspiel, etc. rather than fiddle, pennywhistle, etc. When >I play out, I alternate ambient "soundscape" type stuff with arrangments >of looped Traditional music (mostly Celtic). So far, much to my >surprise, nobody's neck has snapped off. It's quite a shock since the >Celtic stuff is highly structured and the ambient is highly >unstructured. > >I use an Echoplex, sometimes two. > >I've found it very useful to keep notes on what I'm doing. I tried >writting EVERYTHING out, once. By everything, I mean kind of an >orchestral score with all instruments and button presses. Too >unwieldly. What seems to work best is some short notes like the >following: > >---------------------------------------- >Campbell's Farewell to Red Gap > >Looper Setup: > sync = out > beats/8ths = 16 > >Instruments: >soft shakers >clave >chimes >doumbek >triangle/cymbal/shaker >marimba >glockenspiel > >Schema: >Looper actions >REC memory 1 >shaker >REC >OVER >clave >OVER >MULT >chimes >REC >NEXT memory 2 >MULT >doumbek >REC >OVER >triangle/cymbal/shaker >OVER >NEXT memory 3 >MULT >marimba >REC >OVER >glockenspiel >OVER >marimba >NEXT memory 1 >marimba >NEXT memory 2 >marimba >NEXT memory 3 >marimba >NEXT memory 1 >MUTE >---------------------------------------- >I'll write down the melody/harmony fragments seperately sometimes. >I don't PLAY from these notes, I use them when I forget what I did, >usually along with a tape of a performance. > >I find I have to struggle with the structure. The Echoplex interface >seems ideally suited for improvisational playing and much less so for >structured playing. > >The overall effect I term "Experimental Tradtional Music". I have some >ideas I work from but I'm still finding my way in trying to incorporate >looping with traditional or structured music. > >