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John Price and Matthew Hahn Actually I have no problems with anything that you have to say. In fact, I believe that it says, in a more analytical way, what I was attempting (and I realize my shortcomings on this) to say in a more or less anecdotal way. (Part of the anecdote was to try and give some insight into how some of the money things might work . . . where some of it goes, etc.) Just trying to give support to the idea of DIY, I think that one WILL be happier doing that. (IMHO) Since my experience, I have opted to do exactly as you have proposed . . . in fact I realized that this was going to be my path towards the end of my little trip through the business world. I'm doing what I want to on (pretty much) my own terms. Again, I have a lot of respect for those who can figure out how to deal with creativity and the "major" business end. I certainly couldn't. Technophiles, not technophobes. Still would like to know what Weill et al say on the matter. s.l.