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for those people interested in the history of looping: my little looping history article on the website mentions musique concrete very briefly. A very nice extensive article about this topic can be found in the August issue of WIRE (not Wired). One other thing I found in the same magazine is that there are tape loops on Herbie Hancock's 1973 album SEXTANT (reissued on Sony recently) - the loops contained sound generated by a device called Random Resonator which was developed by a certain Tom Oberheim ... anyone know this guy? * michael peters mpeters@csi.com * "escape veloopity" electronic guitar loop music * http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Mpeters