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It seems from the discussion so far that a few people on this list have trouble viewing this topic from shoes other than their own. Stephen Goodman wrote: > > > >Where did anyone develop the idea that recording someone > >else's work for > >free was permissible or even acceptable? It seems that, to > >some of us, > >there's no discussion necessary, while to the rest we might > >seem like The > >Establishment or something. How many of us here rely upon > >the recordings of > >others in this regard to produce their work, and how many > >roll their own? > >Such an answer might be illuminating. :) > > > >Stephen GoodmanÊ -Ê It's... The Loop Of The Week! > >EarthLight StudiosÊ -Ê http://www.earthlight.net/Studios > > I guess the answer lies in the fact that music is all things to all people, really. Just like many other forms of entertainment or amusement. What may be a very important work for one person can mean very little to another. I think realising that your personal expectations must stop the moment you move outside of yourself is a key element of understanding. I have a small quiz for some of you to answer. Not one person lives in complete isolation. There is always something to teach us, inspire us, hurt us, be friendly to us. Every time you learn something, or have a thought or revelation, chances are it was because of something else you have done beforehand. I am not including subjective claims of "Ethereal" type of information channeling here, but even then it is not yours. So really there is very little that belongs to the self, and all of the hard work is just polishing. How do you feel about your debts to others then. Your teachers, parents, what have you taken from them and used, what should you give them back? The musicians and artists who have inspired you, what do you really owe them? The people who produced your favourite music toys? Do you in consideration think that the money you paid was a fair exchange? The reason that I have brought this up is that often I get an uncomfortable feeling, which passes briefly, that I really owe a lot to those that have gone before me, and to those who support me. After that, a lot of the issues with "ownership" don't seem as important to me. So I really don't see much of a problem with people sampling\taking\stealing etc, because I know that nobody else can do what I can like I can, and who am I to force\publish my work on people, in the hope of making a buck, and then restrict what they can do with what I gave them.... I appreciate it when people aren't so tight about their creations, and let it go around for everyone... I find that I can understand the work better. What else is it all for? Jamie, who really doesn't care, but does.