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I'd like to apologise to the group for the slight bang with Bob H. I did get off line in my attitude towards him and, upon reflection, I find there is more room for, as Bob H. recommends, a more "dignified" approach to our replies. I never intended a personal bent in what I said to Bob H. I was merely inflicting my own philosophical musings on him. In a day and age of 30-second commercials, it is no longer wise to expect a person to reflect beyond the mere appearance of words. It is more disheartening to see it happen via e-mail especially, where we feel a bit more freedom to disclose our stream of consciousness. I hope to continue contributing little speech bubbles to these Looper's winds _ just hope they won't blow up on someone's face again. Thank you all. Javier Miranda V. Berkeley, Calif. Well, spose it's my turn to step up to the plate and offer my profound appologies as well. Yes, I have a short fuse and as most of U had seen, I back-fired when I felt I was attacked... Sorry, Javier. Fact is, this is a really great "chat" here. Hope it continues on! Cheers! BH