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In a message dated 7/27/99 12:04:28 AM, you wrote: <<it would be great if someone made a box that offered some of each, a representative, usable selection of both "classic" sounds and original, futuristic stuff.>> There are boxes like this all over the place! Any of ya'll grousers actually HEARD this buncha Line6 pedals? It doesn't take much of a tweak to make something new out of most fx, and all the Line6 gear I've explored has at least a few "new-ish" things, like the swell delay on the Pod. Seems to me that the degree of innovation in musical gear is about equivalent to the amount of innovation in music making: Things mostly stay the same, money is king, imitation is the rule, and success often doesn't reward creativity....but there are plenty of cool little exceptions in both realms for those looking for them. I can't think of any time in my 30+ years of keeping an eye on musical "toys" that was as filled with options and variety as the Golden Age of Signal Processing for Pennies that we're now enjoying. dpc