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>words of wisdom, Martin!!! They still talk about "ethics" with >mixers...ridiculous! You don't believe in professional ethics? If Company A spends a lot of money to design a piece of equipment and then Company B simply copies the design and sells it at a lower price, this is OK with you? Curious. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz