** ya know . . . it was just pointing out the fact that the sound people that are being discussed - - and dissed - - may be players whose day job is doing sound. someone else called them "failed musicians" and i pointed out that many people here could be considered to be failed by similar criteria.
i have a day job and don't consider failed myself, ya know? so why would i consider ives to be "failed" - - or mussorgsky, or myriad other people who have had families and day jobs AND did music.
(for that matter, most musicians who play for a living ARE doing a day job, they're not doing THEIR music, they're doing someone else's. some teach or write about music, it's all cool by me.)
the short answer: NO
would you consider Charles Ives a "failed musician" then?
** ya know . . . almost everyone on this list
> who has a day job could be considered a
> > "falied musician" - - glass houses and all.