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>I'm not sure why you don't just record a blank loop first, at your desired >tempo/length and then, open it back up and start playing. I do it with >big >pad-like volume swells all the time, and it works fine. No bump. This >is the >only way you could do it on the JamMan as well. The EDP will finish >a loop and >keep you in record, I understand, but I'm not sure if anything else does. - because you may be playing before you set up the blank loop, so you would either have a separate input control or stop playing while you set it up. - even in a washy loop, there may be an acurate tempo, so I much prefer to tap this for what I actually play instead of having to keep the "silent timing". -- ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org