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I love this list! Thanks Kim, and all of you. Please bear with me on this explanation. You'll see that I'm still trying to work out an approach, and I sure could use some expert advice. I've been playing guitar for about 20 years and have pursued most of my varied musical tastes. I'm back now to my true and deepest love, which for the purposes of this list could be called ambient, soundscapes (eek!), looping, patterned textures... or not. See my P.S. if that description doesn't make you puke. So, my technical question: I have 2 amps that I love dearly - a Roland JC120 and a Rivera Knucklehead. I'd like to take advantage of both of them in my setup, as I've already experienced the frustration of too many tones into a single guitar amp (ie, ick.). I know that by separating various components of my looping, I'll be able to build a much larger tone palette in a single looping "event". This question really drives at 2 issues - 1) I'm looking for the right 2nd loop or delay tool that fits my needs and 2) I'm looking for ideas on how to best take advantage of 2 amps in my looping guitar setup. Today, I'm setup as: Guitar -> Dynacomp -> FM4 Filter Modeler -> Rivera Amp -> Rivera Effects Loop Out -> Digitech RP7 -> Small Clone -> EDP -> Rivera Effects Loop Return Occasionally other stuff sprinkled in there, but you get the picture I hope! I'm thinking that if I add another looper/delay in the effects loop, with some sort of A/B box for bypassing, I'd be able to decide what signal goes to what amp. For instance: Guitar -> Dynacomp -> FM4 Filter Modeler -> Rivera Amp -> Rivera Effects Loop Out -> Digitech RP7 -> Small Clone -> A/B Box A/B Box (A) -> EDP -> Rivera Effects Loop Return A/B Box (B) -> DL4? -> Roland JC120 (slave) Will this work? Anybody tried something like this? Specific to the DL4 and the recent thread on it being in the effects loop... is that a problem? I'd like to do this without buying a mixer and dealing with pre/post fader auxes, etc, as some of you do. If nothing else, I figure an A/B Box is MUCH cheaper than even a basic mixer with the features I'd need. Any help greatly appreciated! Doug Cox P.S. I'm in Houston TX. Anyone in the area who might be interested in sounds of this sort, get in touch! My next project is developing the music to support a group of poets/spoken word artists - one of which is my wife. The joy of working with your loving spouse is hard to put into words! ...guess that's why I'm doing the music? :)