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I don't like Rebirth much myself either. I would say Reason would be a great choice- Mac/PC and sounds galore along with easy and varied programming techniques and low cpu usage. Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Sottilaro" <sine@zerocrossing.net> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 11:36 AM Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V01 #613 > I don't really know Fruity Loops very well, but I do know Rebirth 338. > Frankly, it's a bit clumsey in my opinion. > philip raath wrote: > > > my friend was pondering this and our solution (one of > > many, i'm sure) was steinburg rebirth.