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>Excuse me, but isn't that "Lawsontronics"? >Max hahaha! there you go, steve! after this thread... now i'm really feeling guilty for my liner notes, where my credits of 'loops and treatments' is a direct, intentional cop from mr. eno. and 'bass vibrations' a direct and intentional cop from spacemen3. sometimes you wear your influences on your sleeve, i guess. rich