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just messing with a cycloops... nice to see something a little different! i do like that you can just plug it in and then sit on it or otherwise mash random buttons to produce something coherant. emmanuel, you may remember sending me a djrnd2 long ago; it is nice to see those ideas condensed into a succinct and accessible widget - kudos and thanks. as i am perhaps not in the target demographic, my primary interests are: hacking the analog devices chip, and making it break. (not physically! just pushing the algorithms. it has a lot of built-in logic, which can be interesting when it goes awry...) regarding the first, do you think there is any chance of official updates to the o.s.? the device has all the components necessary to do a wide array of looping tasks... plus the design is really quite nice. if it can pitch shift loops and adjust endpoints etc. - - - why not expose those parameters in some kind of "expert mode" or alternative o.s.? i think it could be attractive to a whole new demographic of users... just a thought. i like the box enough to write assembly code. :) (but i have other loopers to fry first...) >"Freedom is a scary thing - not many people really want it." -Laurie >Anderson well, maybe freedom could be this optional mode... jhno