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I'd like to thank everyone for their input on this thread, and report that I've come up with a sound system that I feel works very well. Briefly there are 2 integrated system. 1) The 'core sound' is monoral, but split high/low frequencies, into a high-quality amp/cabs (for my Stick or bass, or other fullrange sounds). The core sound is split high freq/low freq. using a Rane DC-24 comp/lim.(which has a very cool crossover feature!). So the core sound can have effects added, or can be bi-amped. 2) The 'ambient sound' is stereo and/or dual mono. I use this for a wet FX mix (stereo reverb, chorus, spacey) and separate treatment of the bass/melody sides of my Stick). I play this through relatively inexpensive, small speakrs at low volumes. This system produces lots of ability to dial in the sound quality, and creates a very detailed high-definition sound and lots of 'space' and emmersion through the stereo mix. By using 3-4 different cabs/amps, Left/Right, High/Low, the possibilities are really wonderful. This saved me from buying two high-end amp/cabs and provides even more sonic possibilities. Routing: Bass/Melody into 2channel RaneSP-13preamp. Use AuxSends after EQ to route the channels to effects, and into channels of a mackie mixer. The "Mono" mode of the SP-13 sums the Bass/Melody channels at the Outputs. One of the summed outputs is fed into the RaneDC-24 comp/lim in its "crossover" mode, highs/lows are treated as desired and OutputA ->highs, OutputB->lows. These can be sent to mixer, or to a premap for the core sound. thanks everyone for sharing your ideas, -Qua -----Original Message----- From: Jazwell Wankerl [mailto:duckbill@fastmail.fm] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 10:41 AM To: LD Subject: RE: emmersive sound Wow, some cool ideas. My band has wanted to play around with surround sound someday. (We look forward to be able to release a 5.1 audio DVD when we can afford to do such things.) Anyway, this thread made me think of the Behringer Edison. I have never used it so I cant speak from experience but it claims to be able to process a stereo image to create a '3D' sound field by generating a controllable virtual 3rd center speaker. Maybe not applicable to Qua's needs but someone might have fun with such a device. ---Jazwell Wankerl phone: 715.833.2290 cell: 920.980.8311 jaz@iwonderasiwander.net 'Duckbill Glass' Synths * Samples Effects * Engineering I Wonder as I Wander... $$$$$$'$$$$$$ "He was born with the gift of laughter and a sense that the world was mad." -R Sabatini $$$$$$'$$$$$$