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--- Mark Sottilaro <sine@zerocrossing.net> wrote: > OK, so I went for the "new kid on the block" but I'm not sorry. I've > done, and will do, a lot of great loop based music with the Repeater, > as > have others. However, I've also come to the conclusion that it's > probably not the best suited looper for my primary needs. I think > that's > the consensus on this list. (only one person responded to my query > that the Repeater would be their "desert island looper") Well, I didn't respond to the original question, since I've been behind on my msgs, but I guess it'd be mine. I did a lot of research before I bought it and the features I specifically wanted (stereo processing, 4 tracks/loop and the ability to persistantly save loops) still stand as things only the Repeater can do in the looping world today. I still value those things despite the fact that I've learned about features other units have that I might like. For me the biggest thing is the persistant loops (and the fact that you can swap the media). I don't know how many times I've gone back to loops I'd recorded before to work with them more, or just to enjoy them again. This feature alone is very close to making the Repeater a worthwhile purchase even if it didn't do anything else. I've been doing audio recording for several years, so the concept of persistant storage and multiple tracks fit nicely with the way my mind has been trained to work. Adding looping to a recorder makes something very appealing to me. My working methodology fits very much with this paradigm. I record all the effects into the Repeater. I've tried putting things in the efx loop and after, but ended up changing that after awhile, since I like having the effect recorded. My current signal chain is: guitar -> stomps -> Roland GP-16 -> Vortex -> Repeater -> stereo amp. I've been experimenting with adding a simple dedicated reverb after the Repeater, and I'm liking that too. But so far, I've wanted to loop mangled signals more then mangle looped signals, if you get my drift. > However, I think if I > had purchased the EDP instead, I probably would have picked up the > Repeater eventually, even knowing it's bugs and limits. My wish list > for the Repeater was actually pretty small. Likewise. I've read about the bugs/limitations, but so far none have affected my ability to use the Repeater effectively. > All I really wanted was the > ability to predefine the length of my loops, the way you can with the > EDP and the JamMan. I just found it clumsy to have to think about > having to end a loop while I'm playing. Yeah, having looped with a (borrowed) DL4 before I got Repeater, I got used to just letting it end the loop when it ran out of delay time. This was my first disappointment with the Repeater, until I figured out I could just prerecord a blank loop any length I wanted. I don't find that too inconvenient. My biggest complaint with the Repeater is that it's sensitive to the signal level and can't be switched between instrument and line level. This makes it inconvenient to use with my guitar amp. > The pluses? Great effects loop. Great pitch shifting. Great tempo > shifting. Stereo. Quad. 8 min loops. Persistant, removable, storage. > Here's what not to do as a company: > Discontinue all of your products except for one. Especially when that one product hits a narrow nitch market... > Tell the public release dates that have nothing to do with reality. > Make up lies about why the product is late that are obviously pure > bullshit. Unfortunately, this appears to be Standard Operating Procedure for much of the technology marketplace. There's a lot more vaporware sold then solid software. Many more promises then features etc. > Ignore customers that offer (for free) to hold seminars on your > product. But hey, you're not BITTER or anything... <grin> Like you, I still like the Repeater. I'm a bit worried about parts availability (rotory encoders, etc), ongoing availability of compatible flash cards, and that sort of thing. Other then that concern, even after being quite a bit more educated about what it takes to make a good looper, I'd probably still buy one. Doesn't hurt that my financial circumstances at the time allowed for it in a way that would not have worked for an EDP. Greg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com