Re: Human drummer:oxymoron?

["Jon Wagner" <jondrums@hotmail.com>]

Here's three ideas for ways to free up some tracks if you're using an audio
beat sync input.

1)Lets say you've set up the sync input on the left channel, and stereo
synced 1/2 and 3/4.  Then 1 and 3 are throwaways and are muted.  After
you've got a loop on 2 and 4, then try this: un-stereo-sync 3/4 and erase
the sound on track 3.  Then resample track 2 onto track three and you can
record over the 1/2 pair again. on long loops bouncing like this can be a
pain:(

2)Only stereo sync 1/2 and when you get a loop you like, resample 2 onto 3
or 4 to free up your 1/2 pair again.

3)Slightly more slick but untested by me, though I think it should work.
Set up your repeater to use the stereo effects sends as described in the
manual.  Now use a patch cable to patch from right send directly to right
return.  Leave nothing in the left send or return jacks.  Now try engaging
the pre-loop effects send and record in mono onto one track.  If this one
works, you aught to be able to get 4 tracks without using a scratch setup -
let us all know how you go!

Jon


----- Original Message -----
From: "Henry Heine" <henry@bagend.com>
To: <jon.wagner@stanfordalumni.org>; <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: Human drummer:oxymoron?


Jon and group:

I have worked with this setup a bit now, and gotten the Repeater to sync
satisfactorily with a mic on the kik drum. My drummer thinks I may have
even better results by micing the hi-hat. The repeater does quite well
interpeting syncopated beats to bpm.

PLEASE, how can I setup the Repeater to get 3 tracks, per the post below.

Has anyone tried the RedSound Micro Sync?

thanks in advance for the help.

-henry

Jon Wagner wrote:
>
> >Does anyone have experience setting up the Repeater to chase a human
> >drummer?
>
> I'm a human drummer.  The repeater chases me.  Now if it can catch me is
the
> question :)
>
> I've had very good luck with the beat detect on the repeater.  My only
gripe
> is that the only way it can beat detect, is from its audio source.  So if
> you don't want to loop the beat detect source too, you're in for a little
> gymnastics.  You'll need to use the left input for the beat detect source
> signal, and the right input for your bass.  Then stereo lock the tracks
> together and mute the left track.  So the repeater WILL loop the beat
detect
> source (your drummer) but you won't hear it because the left tracks are
> muted.  Congradulations, you now have only two tracks to work with.  Or
> three if you're fancy - I can explain how if you really want.
>
> Experiment with micing the drum kit.  A good place to start is an SM57 on
> the hi-hat, or the bass drum.  While the repeater is trying to lock onto
the
> tempo, you can help it out by tapping the tap tempo button.  Once the 
>beat
> detect led stops blinking, signaling that it found the tempo, press the
> tempo-lock button and now it will only react to little variations in the
> drummer's tempo - syncopations shouldn't shake it at this point.
>
> Let us konw how it goes!
> Jon
>
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