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I had a great jam on the streets of Paris the other day with a bass clarinetist from Canada called Phil D'Gi (he's a street entertainer there)... and it was probably the first performance using loops that actually worked. He just turned up whilst I was playing and begging for money and asked "Can I play?". Normally I'm quite hesitant about jamming, because the DL4 is pretty restrictive with changing the tempo, and most musicians have difficulty playing to what I call an open/closed BPM loop (In other words, a loop that is played imperfectly tempo-wise, but repeats perfectly every time) Anyway, we jammed for about an hour, and at one stage, had over 100 people around us.... freeform jazz - most of the accompianment coming from the DL4/Violin, very tight performance. People asked us how long we had been playing together.... and just would not believe that we had just met... I never did see him again after that day.... The only other time I've used loops comfortably with other people was at an art gallery last month. My student had just purchased a 6-string electric violin, a talented singer/songwriter turned up with his guitar, and a percussionist arrived without drums.... but 5 minutes of searching found himself with a couple of bins and shaky things to hit. Again, it was total impro.... and it worked. I'm rambling...... need coffee..... just woken up..... deficating from the brain..... :) -- Stuart Wyatt - Solo String Project http://www.solostring.com stuart@solostring.com