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> on the other hand, i think it's very easy to make the loop sound > natural but > you have to build it so that getting out doesn't sound abrupt or > unnatural. > otherwise it starts to sound like 5 seperate tracks mushed into one. > Yes. the biggest challenge is from the zero point till it 'locks'. Like taking off on a wave surfing, each one is different, and the chance of wiping out is there the steeper the takeoff... NG, ex-surfer stuck inland