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Stephan: >Perhaps the word "mimic" is too confusing - but you can't necessarily say >that a Zoom 2100 or an EDP is nature. Perhaps the manner in which we use >it >would be described as mimicry to an extent. That doesn't make it less >than >it is though. I think of it in the manner that I consider the binary >nature >of our own thinking, and how this has become a pattern that shows itself >in >behavior, as well as computers. We know that, in nature, there are often >not two-sided situations, "black and white", but rather a full spectrum >from >one end to another. and there is no 100% FeedBack in nature as far as I know! Then again, the delighted Looper (thats not very specific here, would you mind to give us a name we could call you?) seems to be another good poet: >Your assumption seems to be that nature is only constructive and >positive (in whatever shades of meaning we derive from our particular >culture). "Viruses" are nature themselves. A giant volcanic explosion >is nature. A giant meteor or comet hitting the Earth and killing off >all the dinosaurs is nature. Are you aware that more than 90% of all >species that have ever lived are now extinct? And if that is the >pattern (loop?) of nature on Earth, guess what's our (humans') most >probable destiny? > >All loops vanish away. > >We *are* biochemical loops. It's natural. It's delightful! I love that one! So, to reduce FB means to turn loops natural! To come back to topic: Everything in Nature seems to be finite, but the Nature itself may not be... and it seems to produce some kinds of energies that are infinite and loops may help to create them. -- ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org