sound art vs. music/cage

[Scott Hansen <scott-a-hansen@uiowa.edu>]

i've had an interesting debate w/ a musician friend about cage.
a lot of his stuff i think is more "conceptual art"--the concept is
always great, presentation doesn't always live up to what's on paper.
he made great sounds, and of course used lots of founds sounds (radios, 
etc),
but again, i would still say that he's coming out of the tradition of
music--and i think he was trying to stretch the boundries of what is 
music, etc. but i would agree that some of his stuff uses elements of 
sound art,
certainly using the uncertainty of outside/unplanned noises etc.
he certainly started to blur the lines, which again makes it hard.
s---


>I can't help but believe that these distinctions are going to become
>outdated as technology and sampling in particular become ever more
>pervasive.
>
>Lance.
>
>ps. what did your prof. think that Cage was doing?
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Scott Hansen" <scott-a-hansen@uiowa.edu>
>To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 9:28 AM
>Subject: sound art vs. music
>
>
>>  kevin wrote: My solo cello shows are more sound art than music I guess.
>>
>>  i did a presentation in grad school (mfa, pntg,drwg) back in '94 on
>>  sound art, my prof ripped me a bum hole saying that most of my
>>  examples were really music and not "sound art" (can't remember my ex.
>>  lots of fluxas folks...), but i would
>>  bet that if my old prof (and he was a cranky guy) would say that if 
>you're
>>  "composing" stuff on your cello, that you are creating music more than
>>  you are creating "sound art".  probably the hardest part is defining
>>  the term "sound art". where does the sound begin/end, where does the
>>  music begin/end?
>>  s---
>>  ps-i remember zappa commenting that he thought of his solos as "sound
>>  sculptures", air moving etc. but it always sounded like great music
>  > to me.
>  > wasn't really sure how much sculpture was involved.....
>  >
>  > --
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