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great points. and don't forget about glitches and bugs!!!! the coolest example of interface as instrument....... --- James Winger <jdwinger@hotmail.com> wrote: > I think it's kind of continuum. > > Even with things like hand drums, your interface is in > learned technique. > > Probably the closest to "seamless" is vox, but even that > requires training > for good results. > > Discreet parametric control isn't resitricted to > electronic instruments, > "real" instruments like pipe organ require a bunch of > "shit management" and > not all electronic instuments are about patches and menus > (theremin for > instance). > > I don't really consider "seams" a bad thing really. A > lot of it has to do > with compromises during the transalation from thought to > deed if the > interfce were seemless, we wouldn't need practice and we > might miss out on > the discoery that occurs when we interface with > something...drum techniques, > polyphony, voicing limitations or characters provided by > various > instruments... > > > > > > > > From: Douglas Baldwin <coyotelk@optonline.net> > Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > To: Jon Wagner <jondrums@hotmail.com>, > Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Real instruments vs. electronic instruments > Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 21:38:16 -0500 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Received: from mc7-f38.law1.hotmail.com ([65.54.253.45]) > by > mc7-s19.law1.hotmail.com with Microsoft > SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Sat, 25 Jan > 2003 18:48:12 -0800 > Received: from hemlock.violacea.com ([207.228.238.9]) by > mc7-f38.law1.hotmail.com with Microsoft > SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Sat, 25 Jan > 2003 18:48:11 -0800 > Received: (from looper@localhost)by hemlock.violacea.com > (8.9.3/8.9.3) id > VAA05810;Sat, 25 Jan 2003 21:47:57 -0500 > X-Message-Info: dHZMQeBBv44lPE7o4B5bAg== > Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 21:47:57 -0500 > Old-Return-Path: <coyotelk@optonline.net> > Message-id: <007c01c2c4e5$b81c1c00$1912be18@oemcomputer> > X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 > X-Priority: 3 > X-MSMail-priority: Normal > References: <OE60UXPzRqxh1YqFd6G00009d37@hotmail.com> > Resent-Message-ID: > <ezkmRB.A.taB.dx0M-@hemlock.violacea.com> > Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > archive/latest/29223 > X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Precedence: list > Resent-Sender: > Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > Return-Path: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jan 2003 02:48:11.0726 (UTC) > FILETIME=[5DA22EE0:01C2C4E5] > > >when I play an acoustic instrument, I get a very > > distinct feeling - the user interface is 100% seamless > on a doumbek (for > a > > patch change, I pick up my shaker). > > I agree 100%. Even with electric guitar, at least the > sound source is a > vibrating string beneath the fingers. The user interface > remains seamless - > for instant patch changes, just pick/fret differently. In > response to an > aggravating question about extensive on-board electronics > on a guitar, Rick > Turner held up both hands and said, "You have ten tone > controls right here. > Use them!" > Douglas Baldwin, coyote-at-large > coyotelk@optonline.net > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months > FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com