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At 12:24 AM 2/14/2003, Rick Walker/Loop.pooL wrote: >Arguably the most sophisticated of the EDP loop IV users, Andre >LaFosse has told me repeatedly that he feels that people don't learn >the Loop 3 features well enough before jumping into the Loop IV >depth. Or more that many people don't go past the most basic ideas of Record and Overdub and miss so many useful and creative things beyond that. That's not really a fault though - I think any new musical device just requires time for people to really get the ideas under their fingers well enough to develop their music around it. And it also requires examples to inspire - sometimes you see somebody else using it to make music you really like, and using techniques that you had never yet thought of or figured out how to use. Once you get that inspiration you run off to try those ideas for your own music. Sometimes it takes a while for the pioneers to get good enough to start inspiring others. >I have had the ability to do both and I feel that the instrument you have >with Loop IV is the instrument you have and that all it's features are >valid. > >Of course you will be come a gratuitous 'stutter fiend' for the first >couple >of weeks but I find myself settling in to learning the whole beast in >a wholistic way by learning the new features at the same time that I learn >the old features. In fact, many of the things about LoopIV are just totally practical. It's just easier to use for many applications. It isn't correct at all to see LoopIV as only some set of extra "super-advanced" features beyond what was in LoopIII. LoopIV is also a huge refinement of the features that were already there, making it all better. For example, the glitchy granular stuff gets a lot of attention and is lots of fun, but to me the new Sync functions in LoopIV are far more exciting. They are so useful and practical! ReAlign is a really fantastic idea. These things aren't really "advanced". If you need to sync the echoplex up to something else, I think you will just find these functions very obvious and incredibly useful. There are other things like that as well, features that people have asked for years just to make the echoplex easier to use. Like Presets, or the visual feedback display, or the easier to use midi implementation. There's nothing advanced about those, they're just practical. >I'd argue, buy LOOP IV (and also support our fearless non-leader Kim Flint >in the process) and get both manuals. > >You will of course need to buy an EDP from GIBSON and the LOOP IV software >directly from KIM. Actually you buy it from Aurisis, which also includes Matthias and Eric. You support Matthias more than the rest of us, since he's really had the biggest role and so far is the only one able to live off it! kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com