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I should add that the top of the line Johnsons are not tube emulators, they actually have tube preamps in them, as does the 2112 and 2120. Mark On Monday, April 28, 2003, at 08:38 AM, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > I've got the JT50 and I can't imagine anything simpler. The preamp > part is like any amp, but you can save your settings. The effects > part is basically choosing the effect you want, setting 2 perimeters > and saving your preset. > > I've heard they're higher end amps were basically a 2120 with an amp > stage and speaker. The 2120 does take some more figuring out, but > it's not the worst piece of gear I've dealt with. > > Mark Sottilaro > > On Monday, April 28, 2003, at 12:10 AM, Louie Angulo wrote: > >> Hi Mark >> I heard that the Johnson can be quite complicated to >> program what are your experiences with it?I guess it >> depends of which model you have,no? >> cu >> L.a >> --- stanitarium@earthlink.net wrote: >>> >>>> It just stands to reason that eventually computing >>> power and good >>>> software would eventually be able to model a tube >>> amp effectively. >>>> It's a complex system, to be sure, but hell my ex >>> girlfriend got her >>>> doctorate writing code that modeled gravity wells >>> in black hole >>>> situations. Anyway, I swear by my Johnson. It's >>> less fragile, quieter >>>> and more powerful than my Ampeg Reverbrocket, and >>> it has great tone. >>>> When I got the Reverbrocket I did A/B tests, and I >>> swear some of the >>>> models on the Johnson sounded embarrassingly good. >>> I've also heard >>>> people who use vintage tube stuff exclusively that >>> sound like crap. >>>> >>>> Part of me waxes nostalgic about what's sure to be >>> the end of tube >>>> amps, but the other part realizes that tubes are >>> the result of a pretty >>>> nasty manufacturing process (so are microchips but >>> they're not >>>> disposable like tubes are) and will for sure be >>> ever harder to get as >>>> time goes by. Oh well. >>>> >>>> Then again, every time I hear Andre Lafosse play >>> out of that >>>> Mesa/Boogie he uses I think, "wow, such tone..." >>>> >>>> Mark Sottilaro >>> >>> >>> well mark, i guess that ol' addage is >>> correct-"unreasonable people can >>> disagree" >>> usually the arguements i get into are about the >>> weight of the amps and the >>> price of tubes and amps and the fact that tubes wear >>> out. its hardly ever >>> about where tone is king. >>> your use of the word 'model' is good. >>> from webster:"a miniature representation of >>> something." >>> the final arbiter for me is -either you hear and >>> feel it or you dont. >>> if yo dont then dont waste time,money and yer back >>> on vacuum tube >>> amplifiers. >>> >>> stale >>> (i agree that bill has a great tone going...not that >>> it couldnt be mo' betta >>> w/ totally tubular technology.) >>> >> >> >> ===== >> www.labalou.com >> >> __________________________________ >> Do you Yahoo!? >> The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. >> http://search.yahoo.com >> >