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I must interject here with some authority-- My momma says, "clown is as clown does" I think I prove that, even with a LD T-shirt on Clown on, Gary -----Original Message----- From: mark [mailto:sine@zerocrossing.net] Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 10:35 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Tubes versus Modeling Caged Death Match Nope, I totally disagree. If you put on big shoes and a red nose, you're a clown. Mark Sottilaro On Monday, April 28, 2003, at 08:55 AM, Steve Lawson wrote: > ...but you can 'simulate' being a clown by dressing like one, which I > think > is a more analogous analogy <grin> than the simulating dressing like a > clown. Dressing like something is in and of itself a simulation. being > something isn't.