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various comments on the thread Max wrote > difficult task, and it makes me appreciate and respect Mick Karn even > more....... huh? Mr. Karn's intonation has always been way off when visible on TV programs. I always cite him as an example of posing over pitching. David's question > > I notice he does use microtones though, sounding a low E > > with a high note between G and G# was once a trademark > > Eberhard sound. with that slow wide vibrato > > Have an example? I have a gig on Sat. and a rehersal on Sun., > so I don't have time to listen to all the EW cds in my collection. sorry David, I don't have any of his CDs, the example comes from hearing him live in the early 90's, and a housemate at the time had some LPs. possibly on Colours of Chloe. I've never seen/heard anyone be accurate on fretless bass without some kind of visual cue. Unlike the violin, the bass is not fixed in position against the body. Maybe sitting down in the same postion every time would help. A nice double tracking (=looping) effect is to play a note straight, and overdub with a small slide up to it. andy butler