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John Coltrane's a great example to bring up when trying to make the point that musicians are more creative when they don't know anything... Daryl Shawn highhorse@mhorse.com > I really think you're wrong here...scales and chords can only get you so > far, as well as can stifle musical creativity. I have played guitar for > 9-10 years, and I know a few basic scales and just chorforms that i've > either picked up or made up, but I do not at all think that I would be > better off creatively if I knew more. The most creative guitarists are >the > ones who bend and even break traditional music theory. Some of them know > the theory and some of them don't even know which "rules" they are >breaking. > IMHO, we are totally limited by twelve-tone equal temperament. There's >no > reason to stick to eleven octave divisions except for the fact that that >has > been the norm for the past few hundreds of years. Ever hear someone >start > integrating microtonality into western music? It's amazing, and mostly > reliant on people who do not wish to grasp those scales and chords. >There > is no "proper place" where someone should move their fingers to. I think > that putting more creativity into the music, and playing what *you* think > sounds right is a total substitute for the "fundamentals". I forget >exactly > which jazz musician said it, I think it might have been Coltrane, "There >are > no wrong notes".