Re: developing musicians and a musical culture

["David" <vze2ncsr@verizon.net>]

Coltrane practiced like a muther-fuck hour after hour after hour after hour
starting at a very early age.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daryl" <highhorse@mhorse.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: developing musicians and a musical culture


>
> John Coltrane's a great example to bring up when trying to make the point
that
> musicians are more creative when they don't know anything...
>
> Daryl Shawn
> highhorse@mhorse.com
>
>
> > I really think you're wrong here...scales and chords can only get you 
>so
> > far, as well as can stifle musical creativity.  I have played guitar 
>for
> > 9-10 years, and I know a few basic scales and just chorforms that i've
> > either picked up or made up, but I do not at all think that I would be
> > better off creatively if I knew more.  The most creative guitarists are
the
> > ones who bend and even break traditional music theory.  Some of them
know
> > the theory and some of them don't even know which "rules" they are
breaking.
> > IMHO, we are totally limited by twelve-tone equal temperament.  There's
no
> > reason to stick to eleven octave divisions except for the fact that 
>that
has
> > been the norm for the past few hundreds of years.  Ever hear someone
start
> > integrating microtonality into western music?  It's amazing, and mostly
> > reliant on people who do not wish to grasp those scales and chords.
There
> > is no "proper place" where someone should move their fingers to.  I
think
> > that putting more creativity into the music, and playing what *you*
think
> > sounds right is a total substitute for the "fundamentals".  I forget
exactly
> > which jazz musician said it, I think it might have been Coltrane, 
>"There
are
> > no wrong notes".
>